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 Post subject: Re: Operation Avalanche! Taking Salerno.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:51 pm 
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A tobacco factory perhaps?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:23 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:02 am 
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At request my axis army for this battle

First Lieutenant Regular 75

Infantry Squads
Heer Grenadier squad Regular 135

1 NCO with Assault rifle
2 Infantry with Assault rifle
7 Infantry with Rifle
Entire squad equipped with anti-tank grenades

Luftwaffe Field Division squad Inexperienced 90

1 NCO with Rifle
1 Infantry with Light Machine gun (requires loader)
8 Infantry with Rifle

Infantry
Assault Engineers Squad Veteran 195

1 NCO with Rifle
1 Infantry with GrB-39 grenade launcher (firing as Anti-tank)
8 Infantry with Rifle
3 men have Panzerfaust in addtion to other weapons
Entire squad equipped with anti-tank grenades

Luftwaffe Field Division squad Inexperienced 90

1 NCO with Rifle
1 Infantry with Light Machine gun (requires loader)
8 Infantry with Rifle

Headquarters
Artillery Forward Observer Regular 100

Artillery
75mm Pak 40 Regular 110

Armoured Cars
Motorcycle with Machine-gun sidecar Veteran 48

Tanks and SP Guns
Panzer IV Ausf G, H Regular 245

Tows
Truck Regular 54

Transports
Truck Regular 54

Platoon Points: 1196


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 Post subject: Re: Operation Avalanche! Taking Salerno.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:27 am 
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Ooh I like that!

Do you think it lacks backbone with no vet troops?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:28 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Operation Avalanche! Taking Salerno.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:37 am 
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Yeah its got a mix, speed and some serious tank shock. Come on you yankies....
That said I will do an american list tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:46 pm 
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Because i have modified scenario 3 Jack and Adam plan to refight it, this was due to it being a rather one sided affair with a concern that the points levels weren't very even including some elements of the scenario being over looked.

Seen as it has come up during our daily convo and I enjoyed it so much last night posting a suggested army list I have created a German one for Scenario 3 here it is. Yanks to follow.


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First Lieutenant Regular 75

Infantry Squads
Fallschirmjäger squad Veteran 78

1 NCO with Rifle
5 Infantry with Rifle

Luftwaffe Field Division squad Inexperienced 42

1 NCO with Rifle
5 Infantry with Rifle

Luftwaffe Field Division squad Inexperienced 35

1 NCO with Rifle
4 Infantry with Rifle

Luftwaffe Field Division squad Inexperienced 35

1 NCO with Rifle
4 Infantry with Rifle
Luftwaffe Field Division squad Inexperienced 35

1 NCO with Rifle
4 Infantry with Rifle

Medium Machine Gun team Regular Free

Medium Machine Gun team Regular 50

Medium Machine Gun team Regular 50

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:16 pm 
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400pts.

2nd Lieutenant (Regular) 50pts

Heer Grenadier Squad - 1 NCO + 7 Grenadiers (Regular) 110pts

- NCO with Assault Rifle
- 1 LMG
- 1 Grenadier with Assault Rifle

Fallschirmjager Squad - 1 NCO + 7 Paratroopers (Veteran) 139pts

- NCO with Assault Rifle
- 1 LMG
- 2 Fallschirmjager with Assault Rifles

MMG Team (Regular) 50pts

MMG Team (Regular) 50pts

MMG Team (Regular) FREE

Total: 399pts


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:29 pm 
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As you may have noticed my list differs greatly from Rayner's in the core troop selections. He is quite happy to rely on his first lieutenants better leadership qualities to help keep his inexperienced Luftwaffe troops in check with tests.

I however would like my troops to be a tough thorn to remove. By good placement, Adam could need up to 6's followed by 5's or 4's to actually hurt my stubborn troops, especially if the terrain and scenery is kind.

The 3 x MMG teams is a must due to the 'Hitler's Buzzsaw' rule which could decimate the US forces (once again dependant on good deployment and cover plus firing lanes). With an LMG team in each squad and assault rifles dotted around the firepower of this force is pretty devastating even at a paltry 400pts.

Another reason for the more experienced troops yet fewer numbers is I like the idea of a desperate, stubborn defence with limited bodies to soak up the pressure. Luftwaffe are flyboys not heroic last stand, up close and personal trench fighters!

And yes, enemy tanks could be an issue but the trick is to just stay alive...............isn't it? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Operation Avalanche! Taking Salerno.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:50 pm 
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Interesting out look Gazza,
my tactic was to use the inexperienced troops to soak up the inevitable hand to hand attack, use them to soak up the charge then counter the charge with the unit of Vets. 2 units could be destroyed in 2 turns in hand to hand, 5 would take 5 obviously thats based on one squad attacking. I was fully holding out in the tower with those inexperienced troops hitting the deck using the down rule to add survivability.
I agree with the mmg's I toyed with not taking one .....but it seemed madness.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:04 pm 
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My American list. for scenario 3
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First Lieutenant Inexperienced 60

Infantry Squads
Veteran Infantry Squad Veteran 94

1 NCO with Submachine gun
6 Infantry with Rifle

Veteran Infantry Squad Veteran 117

1 NCO with Rifle
8 Infantry with Rifle

Regular Infantry squad (Early/Mid) Regular 80

1 NCO with Rifle
7 Infantry with Rifle

Regular Infantry squad (Early/Mid) Regular 100

1 NCO with Rifle
9 Infantry with Rifle

Medium Mortar team Regular 50

Sniper team Regular 52

Transports
Dodge ¾ ton truck Regular 46
Pintle-mounted MMG

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:19 pm 
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S3 Here's how I'd roll up to Rayer.

2nd LT Reg +2 70

2x 1 NCO 5 Vets smg + bar all around 103

1x Medic +2 43

1x Reg MG team 50

2x Deuce w'mmg mounted 66

501 total but I could get that under easy.

I need that building taking so i'm rolling up all MMG's blazing loaded with tough S.O.Bs right upto the front door where I either break through with my tough bastard vets or get all Cassidy and Sundance.

Genius or bloodbath on the door step.

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Its worth noting here that I have done my list with the extra 100 points from the previous win that Adam achieved and chris has not.

No sure I'd take a medic in an advancing mission I expected lots of hand to hand.

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