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 Post subject: Re: Draft forum rules for discussion
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:07 am 
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Ok two things:
1. When you say 'wargaming' what are you thinking of? I think of Warhammer, Warmachine, Flames of War and many other tabletop games. To me, that term does not cover the other games that are played at the club: Role playing games, a host of different board games and occasionally card games. I would hope you're not suggesting that these are scrapped as topics of discussion, as they are perfectly valid for a gaming forum such as this. Please clarify what you meant?

2. While I agree that computer games, films, music and 'just for fun' topics are not related to the gaming done at the club, I cannot agree that they need to be removed altogether. Like Jack said, all forums have a general chat section no matter what they are about, and I am certainly not willing to lose that aspect of the forums - heck, it's one of the only places I post anymore, and I've managed to do so without offending anyone's religion or politics.


Point 1 yes I would include them, sorry I didn't make it clear.

Point 2 As I said I don't see its relevance personal.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:49 am 
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Ragnar The Destroyer wrote:
basicly anything that isn't relevant to board or wargaming as I see this site as a place to discuss those subjects not anything else.
Who proclaimed this a "Board and Wargaming Forum"? Since its inception by the shop it has always contained a "Computer/Console/Video Games" Section and a "General Chat" section.

The forum is a place for "Gamers" of all types to come together and discuss gaming any any other interests that they have.

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 Post subject: Re: Draft forum rules for discussion
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:43 pm 
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The word idiot should be removed from rule one as its offensive in itself. Just have "do not be offensive" is plenty good enough. Its not a good example by the forum to younger users.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:44 pm 
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Ragnar The Destroyer wrote:
The word idiot should be removed from rule one as its offensive in itself. Just have "do not be offensive" is plenty good enough. Its not a good example by the forum to younger users.

Fair point

Posted from my phone. Please excuse my bad spelling.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:24 pm 
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Just noticed this! i think this is one step too far! Most swearwords are blocked anyway are they not? 24hr ban for any first offense? REALLY!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:26 pm 
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I suspect that it's because the word filter blocks swearing that if you do manage to get swearing into your post, it's doubly bad - you've deliberately bypassed the filter.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:32 am 
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Paul, the 24hr ban for a first offence isn't really a ban, more of a suspension to allow the person in question to cool their heels a bit before they can continue posting. In the case of flaming/trolling it's to stop it happening and give them time to think and for everything else it's because you broke our fairly relaxed rules.

Really, if everybody was just nice then there wouldn't be any need for all of this and most of us won't ever see a suspension anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:40 am 
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Really, if everybody was just nice then there wouldn't be any need for all of this and most of us won't ever see a suspension anyway.


Quantify nice?
My opinion (which is shared by a lot of people on here) is that people take tongue in cheek things the wrong way which causes most of the problems, so I suggest don't be over sensitive to everything and accept peoples opinion in turn. Niceness isn't a problem in my eyes.

Has anyone who actively used the forum ever been banned?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:59 am 
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Ragnar The Destroyer wrote:
Has anyone who actively used the forum ever been banned?

Yes, although at this time nobody is banned.

With regards to "nice" there is a thin line between banter and offensive and that line is in a different place for everyone. Its not necessarily about people becoming "less sensitive" to other people, maybe if people were "more sensitive" we would see less blow ups.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:18 pm 
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Ragnar The Destroyer wrote:
My opinion (which is shared by a lot of people on here) is that people take tongue in cheek things the wrong way which causes most of the problems, so I suggest don't be over sensitive to everything and accept peoples opinion in turn.

I see this issue from the other side of the coin: we should take more care to avoid being offensive when we're joking around.

The only person whose behaviour I have any control over is my own, after all. I can't change other people's sensitivity to offensive issues.

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My honest opinion is both should be undertaken. as both sides of the coin have influence on ones opinions and reaction. You can control rising to the bait and not snapping also.
Just because you have read something as offensive doesn't mean that it was meant to cause anyone offense.

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Sure - but to give an example of where the intent doesn't matter compared with the offensiveness:
Hergé wrote and drew Tintin in the Congo as an adventure comic. He drew the Congolese characters in what we would now see as a grossly offensive caricature of African "savages". He didn't mean to be offensive, but he was.

Jim Davidson made comedy out of poking fun at black immigrants in the 80s. He was only joking. He wasn't trying to be offensive, but he was.

I'm not suggesting anyone here has been, or will be racist. These are just clear examples of offence being rightly taken, when no offence was meant.

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